ONE UN - Shaping safer and resilient cities: Consultation of Draft Policy Brief on Urban Climate Peace and Security (WUF13)

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Well, thank you for those of you who have here and very very glad glad to see you in this space.
We are probably still waiting for more and more to come in, but I Very much much appreciated.
You have taken time for a You busy I know how much competition.
So thank you for coming to this particular event event.
And We did this will be very interesting conversation.
I think we have a very good chance of that it's an intimate setting setting and at least not too many too much crowds, but I think from sessions in the sense that I don't know the nerve my colleagues are.
But this event event is more to understand what urban voices to the United Nations security work and identify areas of interest.
But maybe before I introduce myself.
I'll give the floor to the podium to introduce quickly.
Good afternoon.
My name is San Shi United Nations Environment working on towards responsibility in urban context.
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My name is E I am consultant for the one means.
I am independent research and also consultant on safety prevention data datata Department and Scolge College London.
We could introduction we are not I am multilateral I am program.
But here I'm representing the climate sign mechanism which itself is more than more than just environment environment challenges.
It is a collab collaboration.
It's a joint program bringing expert from US environment, climate and sustainable development side sites.
Up UPAA Department of Political peace building, peacekeepers and development program in addition in addition to UNEP.
Nice to see you my hometown hometown background.
I am from New York, New York, and I'm thankful for the great nostalgic image there.
I But we would get a couple of more and more people to join you having time to come here from here.
I think I'll just go on and on a little bit more and more on the background background of why are we looking forward for and the context The climate climate represent challenge complex challenges climate security require more than just action.
We need, but the C because we saw the sources have to have more solutions to these very complex questions.
There is demand from the top down the Security Council has updated the security since 2007, but also after ten years study started asking more and more about how the system analyze and support integrated action in this field.
But maybe for us the demand demand from the front lines from the ground that who sees these are useful and we established based climate mechanism, but really grown on the ground ground and have presentnational, but also country specific in some cases.
And beyond the entities management we have seen many U UN agencies agencies have mainstreamed this topic to work, which is very, very, very good for us and evolves very very much.
It is more and more international policies is in international pol policies.
I'm talking about security now, which I know I know is not an urban urban reason why I am here because we've noticed that it's understandable that we are an intergovernmental system in the UN first and foremost, almost.
But national transnational national but strikes striking a lot of rural lives that we spend series.
The urban is a very big blindspot and this is why we have been working on trying to understand how to to the urban urban challenge there is a clear year signal, for example, on the strengths notation, but climate climate gear.
But especially it's interesting to ask us to consider the urban urban climate superiority context because of innovation and positive that we have to collect and it's really about understanding already out there and I know I know.
Some of you have that kind of kind of, contribution contribution when we went on.
But this is really about unpacking unpacking the urban urban intervention in the Urban urban.
How do security opportunities look like in the urban context to talk about what we learned so far and a little bit.
I thought a couple of points that I would I was there in the I would be asking.
The first one is climate security security.
And I think if you have heard about climate, you would say that it's about climate bic multipliers, the dominant also in the security mechanism CSM.
But it's interaction in climate climatic pressures and shock shocks with existing dynamics, existing social economic dynamics and systems.
It's those cascading impacts, which are very very complex networks of interaction.
And from our perspective, it's important that we don't see a direct link link.
We don't see events to tell each other.
For human agency is a huge factor that's very very hard to model, model and quantify conflict is not hard to directly talk about a environment causing conflict conflict.
But it is usually a factor in the bigger picture when you try to try to understand peace security.
CSM nuance understanding.
And this is leading to the question that I think we use more and more but maybe less prioritize climate in the sense that oceans that fix these complex complex issues.
It's kind of contray that you need to be security if you have a climate security risk.
And of course, the IPCC assessment about the human human security and going beyond beyond.
But I You would say I think you have more and more the legislation climate is something that elevates just a nuisance.
It is a high level of prior resource resources.
Obviously, the main thing is stop emission emissions, stop the root of course.
Then there's a lot of work that has nothing to do with peace and security budget is just a climate.
But it is indeed important to do those those things that ultimately the question.
About understanding what the risks are enabling you to manage these risks.
And we are interested in from you and is supposed to be directed is there any sensitivities of what to bring and how to frame and not to frame.
So this is absolutely we are also interested in discussing as we do work where climate physics it's not something that needs to be the approach.
The other thing for framing recession is How would be where would we use it for security.
So this is trying to convey much of the entering that is very much much available in these here.
It's been impressing for me for me to hear many examples and trying to convey to new audiences and audiences can can find it helpful in that context because we want them to make them expert experts.
But they connect to you and the network networks do required expert expertise.
In the case of the climate mag, we are connected to missions and there are examples of civilians solutions in 19 Haiti.
It's Commissioner.
We do see that not only analysis, but it could potentially actually be about the connection policies also recognizing CTs as implementing the line, but in the dialogue process and including topic topics around PSPs very very large topic topic of sustained space of building building that where you can use the null action as a plaza platform for building and social cohesion.
We know that of an urban naturetionlution.
We are benefits to PCs and of course, root causes of tensions.
So I think I heard in another another event here was the governor saying that we don't need test set.
That's very much what I feel about about this policy to catalyze that do.
How do you find that fit and how are we doing to facilitate that connection in the the demand demand and supply supply the good work that's out there and in other contexts.
But I am ready to António to talk more about the policy and highlight highlight not only the examples of what kind of risk we receive, but also the solutions and how do we capture success success and how do we put it in more conceptual conceptual thinking thinking and frame frame to do António.
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I think for the purpose of contextualization, we are aware this is more and more or less complicated interfaces.
I've had conversations over a glass of wine, complications that involve different interact policy areas that always interact each other.
I think assignment area is one that not that type of challenge.
It is a challenge because we see this conference implement or try to implement what they already know about environment, climate, housing, sometimes is difficult to talk about the more complex intersections of issues about b about timeline, about PCC.
But make these three are particularly important because one conclusion or I'll try conclusion because discussion that you might receive a physical draft draft if you want to be a draft this consultation narrative.
Element in the draft on the report, which we're ecosystems of.
One point to take away from this perhaps the most universal conclusion various urbanization is one of one of the most seeds in the climate change.
Um, so this is here.
And then we go to climate more and more where my crowd conflict conflation.
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Climate ration is a very fair almost almost, element of trend that is highlighted.
We are here amendment to the connection here in this conference conference that the element is well represented.
But then when it comes to the safety, the social stability of trend, the trend that is much less less present.
Moving to the report itself.
Um, the reason there are two reasons to look at urban climate incity space.
One is the sociical drivers of climate and more complex aspects.
But there's also more straightforward, which is policy and bureaucratic more and more exists already exist.
To counting governments, services increasingly to provide warning to stress, stress, et cetera.
But that comes to climate utility issues.
So as classiest the same time urbanization reiterate particularly conflict franchise, need to be the countries that are mostly for the report, but for I'm not going to muchos also urbanization of the I don't urbanization so much.
But basically shows that urbanization rate all countries countries in the world of fragile countries Ukraine have tation rates higher than the W W average at same time, vulnvulnerability, is extremely high and in terms in terms of climate resilience in the not to Dan vulnerability, down to Dam.
Um, the prime to you.
A young young and vulnerable you.
We have some colleagues in the US, sorry, I asked you to vert.
But we have a colleagues in the US, George Mason University urban if I'm excusing you.
I'm going to go into the toileting on the solutions.
That I should say beyond beyond that.
We're not working on cities urbanization problems.
There are also solutions development itself urbanization can be a solution.
It's just that is concentrated in countries that has been spread to have that.
Just as an example that said that urbanization is environment is nature of to the acids to horizontal spread of our form of self.
Let's start one So around Greenland and cultural areas from lack of planning, lack of distribution of the cross from a lot of contration one or two large getting large larger.
So one of the main, sorry.
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There are two main findings the reports about the urban manifestations of the climate.
First is the fact that people are concentrated.
So many of the risks that were political instability, food riots, riots relation to They are exclusive.
But when the more to mobilize and protect the test.
A lot of climate science in terms of riots, riots to overall resources or eacity.
The other trend that we highlight the connectivity of cities surrounding ural areas, chains and other cities.
That's to the effect of climate change utility climate environmental issues that we will explore later.
But these two features climate sharp urban urban areas especially, but also especially connected.
So the report identifies and I will go the sanction, which is more serious is to do.
And then *** on some of the issues for policy and some suggestions of going forward.
We identify basically pathways, risk based, climate change to cities and towns.
The first is post to resource already mentioned quickly climate disruption, disrupt road systems, livelihoods and disruptions quickly translate to prices, infr protests, riots or intercommunication reports climate change arisen rap.
This is something that seriously argue and protest and to the last of war custody conflict conflict.
But there is significant consequences that drought areas to serious and prices have contributed to the ins that later escalated into conflict alongside political, social, institutional, you know, um, pressures in our country country.
The first of instability.
It is very well documented also in terms of the riots in Africa during the years around 2000 also also very strong tf that business disruptions of the others flooding causing disruption in hard heart, et cetera, et cetera when it comes to cities, they are and they explode in the form of wires and political instability.
Some expectations criminals.
Was services are more valuable organized corrupt profit from it.
The report gives several examples of that, including ng structure and resources of the complex.
In other words, is not only a problem for coercion control.
Again, we form where government CCT T that's from several sports documented provisions of Tas controlled by the govern government internationally recognized govern government and a and also landline systems because they know that has become.
The conflict has been going for a long time.
I think many might know I know it's extremely vulnerable.
It's one of the most countries countries.
Dry drought flood flush is an unfortunate convergent ver because there's ground ground to talk at the same time when your rain rains the water flood flood to urban ban areas.
Um, the volatility migration.
Again, very climate opportunities.
But those often tend to form of secure legal market neighbors with rule of law law that can expose those translation violence, service services.
So is not just move movement.
And it doesn't discuss the sponsors they are extremely important.
It is a way of transmission or communication of risk travel from the urban urban areas or risk to increase concentration of oil in the city cities.
On the report goes in triple springs, for instance, because of this disruption livelihoods of storms from the governments that a lot of significant portion of urban bur growth is due to urban and very sophisticated groups of trans people who worse environment to another, for instance, sexual exociation women women that are tracked with false justification reasons to see cities.
And I'm drawing from the report try to idea that we should look of contention.
This is not done by me or me comes from a report cited in the last slide, but it shows how impacts in the suss forests has impacts on the system.
So for example, a drought drought harvests which affect prices, which affect stress, which affect stability.
A flood fatsusing services, which can be mot.
So for example, in housing becomes increasingly conflict because it's not just an economy of a resource economy and b urban management and lands.
It is also politically because landlords and tenants in many areas they belong to different social ethnic group groups and different tribes.
For example, for example, used to have more and more right I'm wrong, more and more often landlords are major majority suburbs are more of the tenants.
There are fs prices rise.
There is large speculation prices and negotiation through corruption.
So to criminal corruption institutional aspects that deserve to be the fact factor into the risk analysis.
So the systems and cities welcome to the mass me brother brother the reporttity the climates systemic cascade speeding, then our response to the systemic.
Linking climate climate planning and local local governance duty and safety as organizations.
Again, climate puts forward for free and is not possible to drank to practice of fundamental drank to practice.
So this framework is designed help us understand how hazards to interacts and dynamics.
It starts from the locals in condomin domains.
Once again, this is a draft draft.
We're hoping to get that, but condominmain, urban infrastructure and services, govern governance, institutional capacity and duydynamics.
So for short such flood flooding drops streams mess association, household waste systems.
If institutions under resource coordinated service sur failures are managed different defcies strategies and impact through the failure function of some services or some resources to social sanctions, criminal expciation interventions we mentioned initially earlier.
Different areas government also source sources or for example, change causes problems by themselves, but areas we armed groups economies corruption or social tensions, has and climate climate impacts such as resources or mismanaged management are more likely to be to be exited or due to itivity.
So that's why we're using the word word system.
It is to capture insecurity is introduced by one factor, emerges territory between environmental infrares infrastructure, government governance, and violence dynamics.
N interactions can bring force to each other.
Positive interpretations can each other.
We give two suggests why policy mutal national government governments and local global governments may be useful for the urban ecosystems of framework suggesting.
First to identify warning signs cross cross systems rather than only reacting to fire breakdowns already already happened.
Secondly, intervention as interrupt negative cycles, strengthen resilience.
But once again, prefer coordinated fashion as resources resources should cooperate converse versus that's in a nutshell, what we're saying.
Um, we're not suggesting creation bureaucracy completely default.
On the contrary as these days again.
But we peace and security into chat planning, risk is done through those existing existing frameworks.
Another important is another graph is in the report on the climate transfer interventions left exposure elements that are clinically cities.
One that local local governance could be more integrate climate utility frameworks.
Historical service providers, neighborhoods local supply to the first of the resource of the higher level climate climate, especially when it comes to the security and resilience to more concentrated at the national level level.
So solution is that treated not just as so of vultility but also from frontlines of strengthening municipality is a detailed rather complicated issue central to climate security.
Another mediation that should not be thought apart just culture structure.
This is something that has been reinforced by the defense in the conference and this is something that we have very useful from here, learning Morgan organized a that this participants sen is not just about physical physical systems, not just about flood barriers, drain drainage systems.
Although resiliency should include legitimacy, trust, inclusion, and participation.
Infrastructure strengthened responsibilities or local, but also schools, families, local businesses, local businesses, local, community organizations for the local local especial spen.
So this is why the drafting.
They show the pation issues already experiment approaches.
Languages and that is the problem issues.
I was speaking on confront crime around urban housing.
So occupation of land, Eagles bullet including from a standby there were a worldwide intersections.
A lot of people were doing using any form of communities all the disputes just fra frame.
They are the forces sometimes enforcement agencies often very military and very very difficult to talk to say especially in America.
But sometimes purely because of fear to security issue from their hands.
A common language.
That's what this point is about in special.
G one example from availability of a particular query area that is environment environmental ding.
Efron is focused on approach approaches to resource issues in ways forward or resolution solution.
If you are, you know that language trend trends in recent years has been called the global conflict institutional is understood not primarily dancing in Iran, Iraq Afghanistan.
But by moving to the local local communities do more concretely on the ground.
So there are several reports and common is bottom bottom approaches that focus on local self and agencies environmental issues issues that context conflicts.
So for instance, one systematic review on environment has identified these examples that right improvements to livelihoods development, through the resource source or using resource or source of sustainable exploitation sustainable profit enterprise tourism test policies for growing economies Amazon.
An area a lot of urbanization.
Strengthen institutional protections, agencies, transparency, fiber corruption and another area of environment using trust trust,ationso management as trust, trust, cooperation communities.
So Why would we have you have cooperate water distribution systems very rough rough and coal resource source management area that we think is community dialogue community such dialogue or used to go to dialogue cross some local organizations we brought together a three dialogues.
During the first rounds we brought separately, the law enforcement local government government government stakeholders, people from government agents enforce more resources.
The event CBOs area areas.
Then problems.
The dialogue solution We force to propose solutions solutions on various issues around rate of immigration from Somalia and the leading to sexual exploitation, extortion, economies.
The together more son government society to the Fit which we are now going to share with then government enforce fororcem.
This is particularly interesting community dialogue, trust, trust organizations both locally and external.
We've been towards the end.
Lessons from the reviews that responses away away from the approach.
Participants warned an urban security often addressed through resources especially margin mainal urban areas.
This is something that moment moment coming from the incarceration based particularly successful in bringing down rates.
The successful islamic climate change cellive which is en environment point I made earlier earlier.
And the margin groups, not just vulnerable populations, but it can be very valuable for instance earlier this message because social social constructs are part art an urban resilience.
So I'll stop now now because I think I might phone, which is always an enormous sign.
But we have some examples.
We have this as well, but there are also very specific examples of environmental solutions that we think the ensaction they also have references and source Thank you.
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Quite a lecture lecture on the piece that we're working on.
Thank you for your work on this.
2020, on this very brief briefly there was so much content.
I thought I quickly resize some of the takeaways that was outlining some of the things to think about going forward.
And And then I think for inclusion was one of the points at the moment.
I was we dire dialogue with the audience, but we had to adapt and sometimes.
Things seem inclusion, then your best intentions cannot always go to fruition circumstances you are and you.
But just to say that we really believe in inclusion and insanity, wait.
It's absolutely the principle of what this program is about and how for it.
And equally, you know, you know, the core was making is that these stresses of urban organization are not detministic that people absolutely key in all of these programs, design designs and frameworks.
That correlation is not causation.
And in Syria, Syria, for instance.
Of course, there were plenty of dresses.
But the authoritarian and oppressive of the government of course.
Of course, drove that up for uprising.
So I just want to again point out that these stress Isityity is often.
Then António out and actors can use scarloit and extra strain.
On urban content context and the migrumility.
And these are operating in a really complex environment, both psychological governance at multiple level levels at governance level and the importance of sub national linkages and how those feedback go to mult multilateral, but I'll stop there.
Thank you very much.
And in order to present the interactive conversations on my left side side right side, I guess.
Can you over here and because we too distance we'll come up here and we will continue the table only to hear here and to see what kind of discussion you had the proposed originally, but if you have things you want to bring up in a more roundtable table discussion we come to the.
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If everyone can move into the col.
We can just start starting with any actions questions you have to meet my colleagues about the presentation.
We have some guides.
I hope.
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But they don't have the ones that we want to focus on that.
But that we think are some of these areas that we want to expand it from what is going to report.
So if you want to reflection on that, just question comments comments.
It's 0.33, a lot of integrate lethal seriously impacted by climate change particularly in lack of inclusive disaster management a lot of us to engaging with us not hearing us.
You often to leader leaders assist you through design design.
They know what to save the table may need from a taxes perspectives climate to speak to speak on behalf of part communities and consultation is often accessible people who are the most affected because they can dependent on disaster.
I think every country in the world countries leading the way away in economies, Germany, Uniteds, et cetera, et must gain cause.
Goction usually resilience policies.
Uh, and we're serious things like the way that urban space motion sidewalk driving in terms of a wheel entering it.
The charge charging is on the same side Exititdt wheelchairs.
They would never actually charge an electric car and often obviously because it cannot adapt to the solution bodies and designed according to the population level solutions.
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I think we always had an idea how do you link with security.
But we haven't had one session which was more and more on disastrous risk reduction management and on what we basically looking for a good practice in the Philippines and talking about the inclusion of perspectives, but I think what we would like to do in the policy is to really interesting good way has actually.
That would be our preferred way to put it it's something that we have considered along the process so far and it's the most forthcoming thing that we've managed in these years.
Just speculate right now.
I imagine imagine that in a post post conflict situation by the large number and even without that, even in global we're talking about 60% percent and people who are vulnerable disabilities during the prime being vulnerable conflicts with the global earthquake which in some job dropping.
Talk about crisis.
There's more people population and so on and so on.
Then there are people who are born and so the disability, they often excluded.
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Just one thing that I remember that is that in the sesity and one thing that was the changeity in emergency responses because canity and the normal.
But then when it comes to emergency responses to take into account council Greetings, City.
My name is Ana and I'm found the President of Alliance of Indigenous and justice.
I am from the India in Myanmar.
Environmental space building is indigenous space building and allows to explain that.
Today, we ceased resources sources, feed, feeds.
But our research shows that there are ones in the world that we today.
And 200 million part is displaced.
Out of that 132 confluences the world today, 88% 80 of Aperham diversity areas where we live in which indigenous people live.
This is not Fairfax research done.
As a result, if in improving for 80% of the world's biodiversity are noted in p space building, then you're reducing now 20% percent on knowledge and expertise that the world need for creating new social social content.
That's the first thing I wanted to Secondly, here here World Forum forum is my first time and we discussed our caucus of this year.
Tomorrow the timetable of indigenous, welcome.
But most of we have also put an indigenous disposals back for action which we said that urban planning building is priority is a prerequisite because you can build the best.
But in today's world, the amount kill is also such deciated in CS we saw this.
That is the second call.
Third, we are also also seeing the issue of the violence was coined by indigenous people.
Has by the United Nations to talk about how this is also something that indigenous Digenous people have been working on and for our Peace based building to also also the reference principle for our environment did.
And finally, I just want you we just finished finished the second on Indigenous Skills building, which source 3300 indigenous builders from 80 country countries.
And in that, doctor Adré Aber Russ on Indigenous digital said this and I want to interpret that.
And he said one thing that In airspace building an indigenous issue.
It is an international security issue because indigenous live in border border areas across cross nations.
This has taken advantage of transnational networks.
I gruff drug trafficking.
So we are going to we look forward forward to working with government governments, with US special trop stakeholders to ensure that this issue up as internationals and security briefing government on this government states coming months months on this just to let you know that is building and commit to working with you to find solutions.
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António, invited me and I one hours after I hear the very quickly.
Kind of let's say a little bit problems.
I bourbon must do much more.
I haven't read the report which was sent message.
So I would not allow myself to something that reality.
I'm a real from Switzerland by 20 years in the United Nations working, et cetera, I never realized that many things in our life are coming from local regulatory.
The things that you see here, you can treat to the citizens central government he will not come contrast to this will go from the local authorities of the city of Hauter territory it has to be really short to speak about urban.
The second thing thing and this is my former humanitarian law and I was struggling again again.
When we speak about safe safety, does it mean urban space safety rhetorical is not to go to the station at night or safe safety in completely and must officially conflict international cross Committee.
Do we speak about conflict? Or we speak about safety in a understand as a woman can Can I walk at nine in class not concrete you're using.
So we can use back again, not but just to clarification for ignorant.
Hi, good morning, everyone.
I work for OEC organization security in Europe.
Thank you for the invitation to invitation to discuss.
I'm here at the World Forum because a project.
Look at the urban one and one in terms of security.
But again, from the definition, there's a way that we always more compres.
Just, you're saying you're saying is put into to make a distinction.
At least, we didn't necessarily to look at it from perspective, but more general security perspective perspective.
We I was actually more and more to the labor management including the persons in the product developed a bunch of study studies looking at different different types of initial initiatives of a that have something to do with results solving environmental security related environmental challenges in one of our city of in Ukraine Craine lot of internal internally dispersed moving into how their services has a would have to adapt to this specific situation of one of the things that was a series series of areas those who were injured and big table because of the war.
So that's one of one of the things that they I'm not going to swear them because I'm not to what extent integrated integrated the rest of their urban develop policies.
I do not know at this stage, but I think it was something that they really when they started development and these developed areas in an open way to ensure that It also reflects something you mentioned earlier earlier that there's interaction between those place places and the local population there also they're not places.
So I think that in order for the people to and from what the other jurors were experiencing.
Just a small confusion for that here, please, please.
So I just a report for graduation to try to drive my migration areas, which hopefully this year year no back on 2008 to nine, the What was that that big thing.
It wasn't previously resilience.
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I identify social, social social were the most important comps for social resilience when we're looking at climate change in different cities and the strength of the network networks and different different communities within cities were the having strong group to group to just within the key ingredient of resilience resilience, whether natural disaster disaster hit a city in terms of migration.
Strongest existing network cooperative capacities different communities across different ethnic group groups to be one of the most important and civilians of social social to rural migrants work to rent housing rent to build if part of the main in an informal set that's forming, which we'll be talking about stores.
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In terms of growth fall behind.
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As I said, networks.
Strong social identity of feelings of the city.
We can talk I'll reference.
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I've worked on city city spaces by spaces that have neglected it speaks to the question you can reclaim the space and you give people the same sense of belonging together bringing people together in the same way you're saying.
I think if bilingual people are only speaking one same or anti moving mult, there's a potential agency linguistic reasons.
If they're conquest groups, for example, a They may face based challenges in terms of social reation across the different communities interfaith building social resilience and social belonging.
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I'm I'm from Ghaan' representing both.
We waste management and we have subsidis subsidiary companies.
So when we talk about climate climate impact on cities, we discuss on G K G.
So we have a lot of climate change issues in the city sometimes.
The government to invest in climate related projects in the area which of these climate change challenges.
Because of that settlement settlements, rural have to to the barriers cities.
And the climate and that investment Park Aasha if is invested in climate climate related.
Which was security.
Thank you very much very much, there are a few things are serving.
If you look at city cities like New York City, those also means they also have power in the woods.
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The second houses in the woods the nature.
In the rural because that's how we were born.
That's one.
On the other hand, I am from the area which is completely rural.
But we also know that these sources the ones where there are mineral minerals, areas where there are huge, huge things expensive and industries can take place.
So there are There is a resource ingenious so that we all move to the cities.
I'm not seeing this in this book, we're witnessing it.
The dry drivers what is this rural? It is that gap gap is finished for us.
The kind of buildings.
Do you think you are able to renew New York City? You feel with those buildings Marvelous.
But I think the human human beings needs an urban planning which builds the human human spirit cannot live like this.
I think for us, Um, even for climate exercises, confront climb drivers and the way build things take care of the needs examples.
This example.
Urban s built by many, many of them maus Indigenous people forced to introduce an urban centers at the bias.
We don't have to read them.
We have knowledge that we have to backpack we are asking US Special Russia towards housing.
We met in Maest yesterday to commission missions by the urban forum.
We have has studies all technologies used by community communities have function center in and whether those goals can be brought back into opting for climate, and urban design.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's excellent organizers and we are kicked out of the room, but I'm very happy side I'm sorry.
We don't really here, but very glad it was much much quality session.
Thank you for the quality of input and certainly we would have.
Also and can absolutely be a unfortunately for definition.
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Thank you very much.